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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">I demonstrated in the ''Optics'' how size, distance and shape can be perceived by reasoning alone, which works out any one of those features from the other two. 'What we have here is a difference not of process but only of circumstances. When we have some new kind of observation, and arrive at our first judgment about it, we think of this judgment as the work of the intellect. When we have some sensory input of a familiar kind, and arrive at the old familiar judgment about it, we think of this judgment as coming from the senses. Yet the process of judgment-formation is exactly the same in the two cases, so why do we have a feeling that they differ? It is because in the latter case we work our way to the judgment at great speed because we have done this so often; or rather we remember our past judgments about similar objects •and copy them in the present case, thus not having to 'work our way' to the judgment at all. This shows that when we say 'The •intellect is much more reliable than the •senses', we mean merely that •the judgments we make as adults on the basis of various new observations are more reliable than the judgments we unreflectively arrived at in our early childhood; and this is undoubtedly true. The first and second levels of sensory response don't come into this, because there can't be anything false in them. So when people say that a stick in water 'appears bent because of refraction', they are not attributing falsehood to the second level of sensory response, but saying in effect that the stick appears to us in a way that would lead a child—or would lead us if we weren't careful—to judge that it was bent. </ins></div></td></tr>
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