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“Relaxing on his couch in a sky-blue shirt, khakis and brown suede shoes, [David] Sanborn insists that [Hank] Crawford’s early Atlantic albums mean as much to him as Ornette Coleman’s early Atlantic releases, also personal favorites. But how can that be? How can Crawford’s R&B instrumentals mean as much as Coleman’s precedent-shattering free-jazz breakthrough? How can the first alto saxophonist’s simply constructed blues live up to the second’s leap beyond conventional chord changes? Sanborn has to stop and think about that for a few minutes.

“I want to hear a story from a musician,” he says finally, tentatively, “but there are different ways of telling a story. You can tell a story by deconstructing a song’s harmony and showing another side to it, as Ornette did. But you can also tell a story by sticking to the original harmony and making an emotional connection through your timbre, as Hank did. Both are equally valid to me.” (bold and bold italic not in original)

"David Sanborn: The Blues and the Abstract Truth," in JazzTimes by Geoffrey Himes, November, 2008, paragraphs fourteen and fifteen. Updated July 22, 2020. Accessed July 22, 2022.

Introduction[edit]

What answers would satisfy an inquirer concerning the values of jazz styles?

☞ Are there different jazz styles?

☞ What values are being assumed or used in analyzing jazz?

☞ What determines jazz values?

☞ Can jazz values be ranked in comparison to each other?

☞ Are all jazz styles equally valuable?

☞ What values does each jazz style have?

☞ Are there different jazz styles?

Yes, there are established sub-categories of jazz manifesting themselves throughout jazz's history. See also Wikipedia: List of jazz genres and "Fifteen different types of jazz."

Early jazz is considered to be Ragtime and traditional New Orleans Dixieland style.

Big bands of the hot and sweet types. Big bands that swing.

Smaller jazz combos that play Bebop, or hard bop, or post bop, this last -bop being a small-combo jazz that assimilates hard bop, modal jazz, avant-garde or free jazz without necessarily being immediately identifiable as any one of those forms.

Other jazz styles include cool jazz (sometimes called West Coast jazz), soul jazz, bossa nova, Latin jazz, modal jazz, jazz/rock fusion, gypsy jazz, Third stream jazz, jazz rap, smooth jazz, or free jazz.

Pianists might play stride, boogie-woogie, or free jazz.

☞ What values are being assumed or used in analyzing jazz?

☞ What determines jazz values?

☞ What values does each jazz style have and how is this determined?

As regards personal and subjective preferences amongst jazz styles, a person might prefer any jazz style over all others.

Amongst contemporary jazz musicians one can make a case that some jazz styles are not pursued as much as others. The vast majority of contemporary jazz players do not play Ragtime, or Dixieland, or in a traditional New Orleans style. If frequency of people playing in that style determines value amongst performing musicians, then these styles are held in less value than Bebop, or Hard Bop, or Post-Bop, which are played more.

Interestingly, most current jazz is somewhat hard to categorize as the musicians incorporate and blend together aspects of hard bop, modal jazz, avant-garde, free jazz, world music, smooth jazz, or contemporary pop.

It is said that most styles of jazz when they first get introduced usually dominate for less than a decade. See a "Jazz Timeline."

How is value determined?[edit]

Things are considered valuable if they fall under the definitions used for determining value.

“A theory of value is any economic theory that attempts to explain the exchange value or price of goods and services. Key questions in economic theory include why goods and services are priced as they are, how the value of goods and services comes about, and—for normative value theories—how to calculate the correct price of goods and services (if such a value exists).”^[1]

Value is determined by considering these parameters as provided by Wiktionary: value giving a partial definition of "value."

“value (countable and uncountable)

“1. The quality (positive or negative) that renders something desirable. Synonym: worth.

2. The degree of importance given to something, as in The value of my children's happiness is second only to that of my wife's.


3. That which is valued or highly esteemed, such as one's morals, morality, or belief system, as in He does not share his parents' values. 


4. The amount (of money or goods or services) that is considered to be a fair equivalent for something else.^[2]

Jazz has value under any of the four definitions. Jazz has worth as enjoyable music. When played well, jazz has positive qualities that make it desirable to some people.

➢ What desires does jazz satisfy in musicians who play jazz?

Musician's desire to play music well. In addition to the technical requirements of keeping time, listening to bandmates and responding appropriately, there are other features that musicians and listeners can both desire including emotional expressiveness, promotion of exuberance, playing sadly or wistfully, generating excitement, energy, sexiness, or even playing humorously. Because human performers or listeners each can desire these stages that music can stimulate, it makes music desirable for these multi-faceted reasons.

Does jazz have degrees of importance? Many people have claimed that jazz is one of America's contributions to culture and the world's music genres. Being a cultural icon gives jazz importance over music's not created in America for those promoting American culture.

The third definition of value is had by things that are esteemed, respected, or admired. Jazz musicians have been all three. The skills to make effective and successful improvisations requires thousands of hours of training, or what musicians sometimes call woodshedding, which is more than just practicing— it is the place where one works out the techniques that form the foundation of one's improvisational ability. Such improvisational expertise is admired and respected because of the level of difficulty and the success in having mastered one's instrument and musical abilities.

The fourth definition for value was the amount (of money or goods or services) that is considered a fair equivalent for something else. People pay money to watch and listen to jazz performances. Jazz meets this definition of value because of the economic market forces involved.

Different Determiners of Value: Subjective versus Objective[edit]

Some things are subjectively valuable, but not non-subjectively valuable. Subjective value is determined by personal preferences and desire and one's emotional attachments to things or events. The non-subjective values, perhaps sometimes misleadingly called the objective value, can still have different means other than personal preferences for how that value gets established.

Some objects have intrinsic value where this value cannot vary with resource scarcities. Some things proposed as having intrinsic value are friendship, love, or truth-telling/honesty. Socrates (470–399 BC) believed that justice was not dependent upon any person's beliefs or desires.

Ethics professor and Director of the Ted Rogers Leadership Centre at Ryerson University in Toronto, Canada, philosopher Chris MacDonald explains the differences between intrinsic and extrinsic value.

“Intrinsic value is best understood in contrast to extrinsic value.

Things with extrinsic value have value because of what they can get us. My car has extrinsic value to me because I value the things it does for me—like getting me to work, and taking me on vacations.

I value friendship, on the other hand, for its own sake. It’s not a way for me to get something else.

Some things might be thought either intrinsically or extrinsically valuable. Many people would say love has intrinsic value—we value it for its own sake. Others might argue that we value it because it brings us joy, which would make it extrinsically valuable.”^[3] (bold not in original)

Economic theory has sometimes based a theory of value on the intrinsic value of things.

“In economics, an intrinsic theory of value (also called theory of objective value) is any theory of value which holds that the value of an object or a good or service is intrinsic, meaning that it can be estimated using objective measures. Most such theories look to the process of producing an item, and the costs involved in that process, as a measure of the item's intrinsic value. Paradigmatically, money is supposed to be good, but not intrinsically good: it is supposed to be good because it leads to other good things, such as buying better teaching equipments at a local primary school. The explanation aims to differentiate the original meaning of intrinsic value from the actual physical benefit it has.

The labour theory of value is an early example of an intrinsic theory, which was originally proposed by Adam Smith and further developed by David Ricardo and Karl Marx.”^[4] (bold not in original)

Non-intrinsically valuable things can still have considerable value, such as gold, for example. Gold has inherit properties that make it intrinsically valuable, such as being malleable. If one desires or values malleability, then gold has positive values in this regard. However, if gold were found lying everywhere on the surface of the earth in big chunks easily mined, then it would lose its economic value as a commodity for trading because of it's relative scarcity, just as people do not use ordinary dirt out of anyone's yard for currencies of exchange. Gold's economic value varies with the level of scarcity and difficulty and expense in acquiring the material. If aliens from another galaxy carefully deposited mountains made of gold everywhere on Earth the price of gold would plummet to almost nothing proving the economic value of gold is not entirely intrinsic to itself, but dependent on relative scarcity and the costs involved in acquiring it.

Gold is a valuable metal with higher value than other metals, such as iron, because it is scarcer than iron and costs more to mine and refine it. Yet the value of gold is non-subjectively valuable, whether anyone knows this or not, because on Earth it is a scarcer metal. The scarcity that determines gold's relative value to other metal deposits is not determined by any one person, or any size group of persons. Hence, it is an 'objective' feature of the value of gold in the preceding sense.

Gold is formed in nuclear synthesis by stars. Nowhere in the entire universe, is there a lot of gold because it is manufactured in stars in smaller quantities than other metals. So, supply is low and the demand is high.

Gold has many properties that give it value:

★ Rarity—there’s a lot of aluminum and iron in the Earth—there’s not much gold (and there’s more silver than gold since elements with a lower atomic number are more common than those with higher atomic numbers).

★ Chemical stability—gold doesn’t react with much of anything, so you’ll almost always find gold in its elemental form (unlike carbon, aluminum, and most other metals).

★ Radiological stability—unlike polonium, bismuth, uranium, and other really heavy elements, gold doesn’t decay away over time.

★ Solidity—it’s not a gas or liquid so it won’t just waft away or spill and be lost—unlike oxygen, chlorine, mercury, bromine, and similar elements.

★ Utility—gold can actually be made into things like jewelry and coins and (more recently) electrical conductors. Gold is an excellent conductor of heat and electricity.

★ Attractiveness—gold looks better than many other elements such as lead, iron, tin, and so forth.

Gold was really the only element that was rare enough and useful enough to be valuable; as well as chemically, radiologically, and physically stable enough to serve as the basis for a monetary system. And it’s pretty too!

Industrial uses of gold are many, especially concerning gold's relative insolubility.

There are many more characteristics of Gold that makes it valuable. Its usefulness is derived from a diversity of its special properties. Gold conducts electricity, does not tarnish, is easy to work, can be drawn into wire, can be hammered into thin sheets, alloys with many other metals, can be melted and cast into highly detailed shapes, has a wonderful color and a brilliant luster. Gold is a memorable metal that has been revered by humans for thousands of years.

As per a law of economics, if the supply is low and the demand is high, then prices increase.

The labor theory of value[edit]

“Another main concern for [Adam] Smith [(1723–1790)] involved tracing the roots of value. He identified two different kinds of value, "use value" and "exchange value." The concept of exchange value interested Smith considerably. The diamond-water paradox, in particular, proved puzzling to him: Why is it that diamonds, which have very little practical use, command a higher price than water which is indispensable to life? By discovering the true source of value Smith hoped to find a benchmark for measuring economic growth. Eventually Smith settled on labor as the source of value: The number of hours labor that a good can be exchanged for constitutes its inherent worth. (Note, this is not the same as saying that a good is worth the number of hours spent in its production.) The value of a good can also be referred to as the "natural price." The natural price need not function as the actual cost of a good in the marketplace. Competition, however, was expected to push the market price towards the natural price.”^[5] (bold and bold italic not in original)

The labour theory of value held that the value of a thing was determined by the labour that went into its production. This contrasts with the modern contention of neoclassical economics, that the value of a thing is determined by what one is willing to give up to obtain the thing.

“In economics, utility is the satisfaction or benefit derived by consuming a product. The marginal utility of a good or service describes how much pleasure or satisfaction is gained by consumers as a result of the increase or decrease in consumption by one unit. There are three types of marginal utility. They are positive, negative, or zero marginal utility. For instance, you like eating pizza, the second piece of pizza brings you more satisfaction than only eating one piece of pizza. It means your marginal utility from purchasing pizza is positive. However, after eating the second piece you feel full, and you would not feel any better from eating the third piece. This means your marginal utility from eating pizza is zero. Moreover, you might feel sick if you eat more than three pieces of pizza. At this time, your marginal utility is negative. In other words, a negative marginal utility indicates that every unit of goods or service consumed will do more harm than good, which will lead to the decrease of overall utility level, while the positive marginal utility indicates that every unit of goods or services consumed will increase the overall utility level.

In the context of cardinal utility, economists postulate a law of diminishing marginal utility, which describes how the first unit of consumption of a particular good or service yields more utility than the second and subsequent units, with a continuing reduction for greater amounts. Therefore, the fall in marginal utility as consumption increases is known as diminishing marginal utility. Economists use this concept to determine how much of a good or service that a consumer is willing to purchase.

The term marginal refers to a small change, starting from some baseline level. Philip Wicksteed explained the term as follows: Marginal considerations are considerations which concern a slight increase or diminution of the stock of anything which we possess or are considering. Another way to think of the term marginal is the cost or benefit of the next unit used or consumed, for example the benefit that you might get from consuming a piece of chocolate. The key to understanding marginality is through marginal analysis. Marginal analysis examines the additional benefits of an activity compared to additional costs sustained by that same activity.

As a topic of economics, utility is used to measure worth or value. Economists have commonly described utility as if it were quantifiable, that is, as if different levels of utility could be compared along a numerical scale. Initially, the term utility is equated usefulness with the production of pleasure and avoidance of pain by moral philosophers such as Jeremy Bentham and John Stuart Mill. Moreover, under the influence of this philosophy , viewed utility as "the feelings of pleasure and pain" and further as a "quantity of feeling."

Contemporary mainstream economic theory frequently defers metaphysical questions, and merely notes or assumes that preference structures conforming to certain rules can be usefully proxied by associating goods, services, or their uses with quantities, and defines "utility" as such a quantification. In any standard framework, the same object may have different marginal utilities for different people, reflecting different preferences or individual circumstances.

The law of diminishing marginal utility is at the heart of the explanation of numerous economic phenomena, including time preference and the value of goods . . . The law says, first, that the marginal utility of each homogeneous unit decreases as the supply of units increases (and vice versa); second, that the marginal utility of a larger-sized unit is greater than the marginal utility of a smaller-sized unit (and vice versa). The first law denotes the law of diminishing marginal utility; the second law denotes the law of increasing total utility.”^[6] (bold not in original)

“The theory of marginal utility, which is based on the subjective theory of value, says that the price at which an object trades in the market is determined neither by how much labor was exerted in its production nor on how useful it is on the whole. Rather, its price is determined by its marginal utility. The marginal utility of a good is derived from its most important use to a person. So, if someone possesses a good, they will use it to satisfy some need or want, starting with the one that takes highest priority.”^[7] (bold not in original)

The subjective theory of value[edit]

“The subjective theory of value is a theory of value that believes that an item’s value depends on the consumer. This theory states that an item’s value is not dependent on the labor that goes into a good, or any inherent property of the good. Instead, the subjective theory of value believes that a good’s value depends on the consumers wants and needs. The consumer places a value on an item by determining the marginal utility, or additional satisfaction of one additional good, of that item and deciding what that means to them.

The modern subjective theory of value was created by William Stanley Jevons, Léon Walras, and Carl Menger in the late 19th century. The subjective theory contradicted Karl Marx's labor theory which stated an item's value depends on the labour that goes into production and not the ability to satisfy the consumer.

The subjective theory of value helped answer the "diamond–water paradox," which many believed to be unsolvable. The diamond–water paradox questions why diamonds are so much more valuable than water when water is necessary for life. This paradox was answered by the subjective theory of value by realizing that water, in total, is more valuable than diamonds because the first few units are necessary for life. The key difference between water and diamonds is that water is more plentiful and diamonds are rare. Because of the availability, one additional unit of diamonds exceeds the value of one additional unit of water.”^[8] (bold not in original)

“The subjective theory of value is an economic theory which proposes the idea that the value of any good is not determined by the utility value of the object, nor by the cumulative value of components or labour needed to produce or manufacture it, but instead is determined by the individuals or entities who are buying or selling the object in question. This trend is often seen in collectable items such as cars, vinyl records, and comic books. The value of an object may have increased substantially since its creation or original purchase due to age, a personal affinity, or scarcity.

According to the subjective theory of value, by assuming that all trades between individuals are voluntary, it can be concluded that both parties to the trade subjectively perceive the goods, labour or money they receive, as being of higher value to the goods, labour or money they give away. The theory holds that one can create value simply by trading with someone who values the items higher, without necessarily modifying those.

This suggests that items cannot be objectively valued as any value placed upon the item is only correct if both buyer and seller agree on the price and a transaction takes place. A seller may value an item in their possession higher than any buyer will value it leading to either a price reduction until the item's price equals a buyer's value of the item, or the seller will continue to value the item higher than any buyer and no transaction will occur.

Individuals will experience more radical improvements to life and satisfaction from acquiring the first unit of a good compared to the marginal utility from acquiring additional units of a good. They will initially prioritise obtaining the goods they most need (of central, not marginal utility), such as essential food, but once their need for it is satisfied up to a certain level, their desire for other luxury or surplus goods will begin to rise, and the satisfaction obtained from the original essential goods will diminish.

The subjective theory of value presents a solution to this paradox by arguing that value is not determined by individuals choosing among entire abstract classes of goods, such as all the water in the world versus all the diamonds in the world. Rather, an acting individual is faced with the choice between definite quantities of goods, and the choice made by such an actor is determined by which good of a specified quantity will satisfy the individual's highest subjectively ranked preference, or most desired end. Water is very abundant, therefore its marginal utility is not that high, despite its important function in keeping organisms alive.”^[9] (bold not in original)

Comparing jazz value rankings[edit]

☞ Can jazz values be ranked in comparison to each other?

The values of different jazz styles[edit]

☞ What values does each jazz style have?

☞ Are all jazz styles equally valuable?

Yes, all jazz styles are equally valuable[edit]

Jazz is a form of music. Music has value because people find it so whether as performing musicians or as listeners.

No, all jazz styles are not equally valuable[edit]

Is all music enjoyed equally by all persons, or by all musicians? We know the answer is that different people have different preferences so some people like polka music and others do not enjoy listening to it. The same holds true for different jazz sub-genres. Some people like big band music, while others enjoy a solo piano performance more than they enjoy a big band sound.

As a consequence, from the subjectively valued perspective of individual people, some jazz genres are preferred over others and so to this extent are valued more highly than music not preferred.

Is one music sub-genre of jazz objectively superior or more valuable than another?

☞ What values are being assumed or used in analyzing jazz?

Music's properties can be analyzed and comparisons made. Between two samples of music, A and B, it could be discovered that A has more high notes than B, that B has vocals, while A is exclusively instrumental music. Some people prefer vocal music over instrumental music. That notwithstanding, does vocal music have any superior values over non-vocal music from a non-subjective viewpoint?

When lyrics (words that make up a song, usually consisting of verses and choruses) are used one can communicate a lot more semantic information to a listener than just using instrumental music. This is a valuable achievement since information transmission and complex communication is valued by humans, but likely valued by all beings since information can be used to enhance an entities survival.

☞ What determines jazz's musical values?

Ranking jazz value comparisons[edit]

☞ Can jazz values be ranked in comparison to each other?

Yes, jazz values can be compared to each other[edit]

Subjectively, some people prefer Dixieland to free jazz and vice-versa. Does this make either one objectively more valuable? Well, it could if there were many more people who prefer Bebop over Ragtime music to either perform it or listen to it. The popularity of one genre over another gives it higher points in terms of favorability so in this sense Bebop has higher preferential value of people involved with jazz.

No, jazz values cannot be compared to each other[edit]

Many people believe it is not possible to compare musicians in terms of greatness, as in who was greater, Miles Davis or John Coltrane. Each has valuable things to offer other musicians and listeners, they do not offer the exact same things, and so their overall greatness cannot be compared since they do not do the same things. The idea is that one cannot say a policeman is more important than a firefighter since they perform different societal functions. Similarly, Coltrane often played a lot of shrieking saxophone, whereas Miles Davis neither plays saxophone, nor does he ever try playing shrieking notes through his trumpet.

NOTES[edit]

1. ↑ Wikipedia: Theory of value (economics). Accessed August 29, 2022.
2. ↑ Wiktionary: value. Accessed August 29, 2022.
3. ↑ Chris MacDonald, "What is intrinsic value in ethics?," Quora.com. Accessed August 29, 2022.
4. ↑ Wikipedia: Intrinsic theory of value. Accessed August 29, 2022.
5. ↑ Yousuf Dhamee, "Adam Smith and the Division of Labor," from The Victorian Web, 1995. Accessed August 29, 2022.
6. ↑ Wikipedia: Marginal utility. Accessed August 29, 2022.
7. ↑ Wikipedia: Paradox of value#Marginalism. Accessed August 29, 2022.
8. ↑ Wikipedia: Theory of value (economics)#Subjective theory of value and marginalism. Accessed August 29, 2022.
9. ↑ Wikipedia: Subjective theory of value. Accessed August 29, 2022.